The webpage of the beast

My friend V came up with a fantastic piece of tittle-tattle recently: Tim Berners-Lee is Satan.

goat photo taken by matan rochlitz and used under creative commons licenceHis reasoning was this: 666 is the number of the beast. The number 6, in Hebrew, is sometimes transliterated as W. Therefore the number of the beast is www – the World-Wide Web – Tim Berners-Lee’s invention and propagator of goat porn, erroneous Wikipedia entries and other associated evils.

An entertaining theory, V, but sadly a load of old toss. For one, the earliest sources of the Book of Revelation were written in Ancient Greek, not Hebrew. Second, Hebrew numbers are a bit like Roman numerals, in the sense that the Roman number III is three, not one-hundred and eleven. So Vav-vav-vav is not six hundred and sixty-six, but six plus six plus six, or 18.

A sturdier theory is that the number of the beast is in fact 616, based on the earliest known record of the Book of Revelation, a scrap of papyrus known as P115. There are other ancient texts that corroborate this, although there are also many that plump for the more traditional 666, so the matter is, literally, academic. More interestingly, according to Wikipedia, there is a theory that 666 and/or 616 refers to the Roman emperor Nero.

nero photo taken by joe geranio and used under creative commons licenceThe argument goes that scribes, afraid to use the emperor’s name for fear of arrest and lions, used a code to hint at the beast’s identity. Scholars say that “Nero Caesar”, translated into Hebrew and then transliterated using a numerological system known as gematria, is 666. You can also fiddle it so that an alternative spelling for the name comes out as 616.

This appears compelling when you consider the wording of Revalations 13:18: “Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is six hundred threescore and six.”

But then it’s important to remember that numerology is responsible for some of the worst theories ever concocted. Indeed, you need not stray from the Wikipedia page to see that academics have crowbarred all manner of phrases into the numerological system to generate 666 or 616. Caligula equates to 616 if you use his first name and title, and Domitian generates 666 provided you call him Imperator Caesar Domitianus Augustus Germanicus, translate it into ancient Greek, and abbreviate it.

I half-suspect Robert Graves, the poet, was taking the piss when he suggested that 666 was a version of “The Emperor Domitian violently killed the envoys of Christ”.

But the worst case of numerological abuse of 666 I have ever come across was a theory devised by one Harry Hinde, author of a book entitled 666 The Divine Harmony. I engaged in a brief e-mail exchange with him two years ago after he invited me to help publicise his theory. “The whole world is stamped with the mark of 666, and was deliberately set out and designed this way,” he wrote. “Just look at the evidence below which categorically proves that the principal sites within London have been laid out and established to a unique pattern of 666.”

He then listed 26 sites 666 metres apart, such as St Paul’s Cathedral and the Bank of England (both built prior to the metre being defined, but never mind), or Marble Arch and the Roosevelt Memorial. His measurements are largely accurate, but only if you allow them to begin and end at any point in each of the buildings. The Bank of England and Liverpool Street Station, for example, are between 600 and 800 metres apart depending on which bit of the buildings you choose. If you take buildings that have a margin of about 50 metres at each end, it makes it very easy to find pairs of them roughly 700 metres apart in a city as densely packed as London. The problem for Mr Hinde is that 666 is an annoyingly accurate number. For his theory to hold water the buildings should be precisely that distance apart, whether from edge to edge or between their geographical centres. This didn’t appear to be true for any of them, at least using a ruler and an A to Z.

But then, maybe the compilers of the A to Z are in league with Satan.


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9 Responses to “The webpage of the beast”

  1. Tom L Says:

    I suspect that this post may lead to your fielding aggressive comments from nutters for quite some time.

  2. pouletnoir Says:

    I was rather hoping, but you seem to be the only person who comments these days.

  3. Moobs Says:

    As a teenager I read a fascinating book called “When Your Money Fails”. It was designed as a sort of spotters’ guide to the number of the beast. It had twin theses. First, the US Government was about to make receipt of social security payments conditional on having a barcode tattooed on your forehead. This meant the debut of the Mark of the Beast. Getting on for 30 years later this has still not been introduced but you know how slow Government departments can be.

    Secondly every instance of the number 666 appearing in public was part of a (literally) diabolical plan to make the number so commonplace that we stopped noticing it altogether and marched blindly into Satan’s maw.

    It occurs to me that I read a lot of s**t when I was a teenager.

  4. pouletnoir Says:

    A devilish monetary system would, I suppose, be the Satanic Purses.

  5. Fardawg Says:

    It isn’t just the number 666 that leads to the belief that Nero was the beast. If it was that alone you would have a point. There are also the 7 heads, also called kings, of the Beast which represent 7 Caesars according to this view. According to John five had fallen and one was alive. That one would be Nero. The Beast is actually the Roman Empire and not just one Caesar. Revelation says that one of the heads of the Beast was killed but the Beast, i.e. Rome, recovered. The Roman historian Tacitus said that after Nero’s death the Empire looked as if it would fall (during the year of the four emperors) but that it recovered when Vespasian became Emperor. There is much more to this but that would take too long. Look up “partial preterism” if you want more.

  6. pouletnoir Says:

    Interesting stuff, Fardawg. Thanks.

  7. Richard Schurz Says:


    Enclosed is a Bible study of the coming anti-christ of the Great Tribulation. Hoping for your comments and feedback since the End-Times may be very soon.

    Your eternal friend in Jesus,



    Revelation 13:17b,18: “The mark of the beast {Or Anti-Christ} is the *NAME* of the Beast or the number of *HIS NAME*. This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, *LET HIM* calculate the number of the Beast {Even in AD 96 when Revelation was written}, for it is a man’s number {Or “Number of a MAN”}. *HIS* number is *666*.” God has promised in the above inspired passage that any saint {Even in AD 96–which implies that the name was known in AD 96} with spiritual wisdom and insight may calculate the name of the beast which is a *MAN’S NAME* and adds up to 666.
    In Thess 2:3 the Beast of the End-Times is called a “*MAN* of sin or lawlessness” and therefore the name of the Beast which adds up to 666 is a *MAN’S* name which is also confirmed in Rev 13:17b,18 above. Therefore, the NAME of the Beast which adds up to 666 is a *MAN’S NAME* and could not be the name of a woman or a city, country, computer or Satan, etc..
    When I was a missionary in Israel I studied the Hebrew language. One of the first things that you learn when you study the OT Ancient Hebrew language {Which is also the language of Israel today!} is that the 22 letters of the Hebrew alphabet ALSO represent 22 numbers! When you read Psalm 119 you will note that the 176 sentences are divided into 22 sections; each section with 8 sentences or verses praising the Word of God. These 22 sections are each headed by one of the letters in the hebrew alphabet in the exact same order as shown below. The ancient Hebrew language {Which is exactly the same as the modern Hebrew language} frequently used the letters of their alphabet to designate NUMBERS IN THE OT as follows:
    ALEPH=1. BETH=2. GIMEL=3. DALET=4. HE=5. VAV=6. ZAYIN=7. CHETH=8. TETH=9. YODH=10. KAPH=20. LAMED=30. MEM=40. NUN=50. SAMEKH=60. AYIN=70. PE=80. TSADHE=90. KOPH=100. RESH=200. SHIN=300. TAV=400.
    NOTE: Most vowel sounds excpt “O” {VAV} are not used as letters in Hebrew. These vowel sounds are designated by dots and dashes under their *PRECEDING* consonants. In Hebrew “N” is added on the end of all foreign names ending in “O”. Therefore, the foreign name of Nero would be “NERON” in Hebrew. The name Nero Caesar would be pronounced Neron Kaysar in Hebrew. The “E” in Neron and the 2 “A” sounds in Kaysar are designated by dots and dashes under their preceding consonants and therefore are not letters in the 22 letter Hebrew alphabet, and so have no numerical value. Neron in Hebrew would use 4 letters with numerical value: N-R-O-N and Kaysar in Hebrew would use 3 letters with numerical value: K-S-R. There would be a dot under the first N to show the “E” sound in NEron There would also be 2 dots under the “K” to show the “AY” sound in KAYsar and a dash under the “S” to show the “AH” sound in KaySAr.
    The 4 letters with numerical value in NERON would be {SEE TABLE ABOVE} N = 50; R = RESH = 200; O = VAV = 6; and N = NUN = 50 and 50+20+6+50 equals 306. The 3 letters with numerical value in “KAYSAR woyld be K = KOPH = 100; S = SAMEKH = 60; and R = RESH =200 and 100+60+200 equals 360. And so the numerical value of Nero in Hebrew is 306 and the numerical value of Caesar in Hebrew is 360, and therefore the numerical value of Nero Caesar is 306+360 or exactly *666*!
    There is a very interesting footnote in the revised Standard Version concerning the number 666 which states that some ancient manuscripts have the number **616** which *DOUBLY* confirms that Nero Caesar may be the Anti-Christ!! You will note that the Hebrew language adds an “N” to all foreign names eding in “O”. Now “N” or “NUN” in Hebrew has a numerical value of **50**!! and so if you decided not to add the last “N” in NERON then Nero Caesar would add up to exactly **616** in Hebrew. I think you will admit that this is an absolutely amazing coincidence!!
    Any honest Hebrew language scholar will confirm that the letters of Nero Caesar’s name add up to 666 in the hebrew language whose 22 letters are also 22 numbers as shown above. Since all of the prophecies concerning the Anti-Chriist are written in OT Hebrew {Like Daniel 7:8-25} or NT Koine Greek it would then seem logical that God would use one of these 2 Bible languages to identify the Name of the Beast whose letters add up to 666. one of the problems of doing this in NT Koine Greek is that the letters of their alphabet are not also numbers. And therefore you can only assign a numerical value of 22 to the 22nd letter, etc.. Using this formula you could not get any name to add up to over 250, let alone 666. You have the same problem with English and all other languages other than the Hebrew language!
    NOTE: The 3 different Greek words used in Revelation 13:18b to arrive at the number 666 are the 3 different Greek words for 600 and 60 and 6 and not 6 + 6 + 6.
    Will the 6th Caesar {Julius, Augustus, Tiberius, Caligula, Claudius & the *6th* is NERO who ordered the execution of Paul & Peter in AD *66*} be the Beast who comes up from the Abyss {Or Hell-See Rev 17:8} in the coming Great Tribulation??

    Rev 1:8,9: “I, John, your brother and companion in the suffering and kingdom and patient endurance that are ours in Jesus, was on the island of Patmos beacuse of the Word of God and the testimony of Jesus.” We know that the island of Patmos was the site of a Roman prison the the first Century and that the Apostle John was suffering in this prison because of his religious beliefs. {As per Rev 1:8,9 above} The island of Patmos is about 30 miles from the port of Ephesus in Western Turkey.
    History tells us that the second huge Roman persecution of Christians {The first was NERO’S PERSECUTION OF AD 64-68} occurred in the last year of the reign of Domitian Caesar which would have been from September AD 95 to September AD 96. During the last year of his rule Domitian Caesar decreed that everyone in the in the Roman Empire must worship idols of former Roman Caesar’s or else they would be killed or put in prison. Historical documents show us that the Apostle John lived to about AD 100 and therefore would have been alive during Domitian’s evil decree of September Ad 95 to September of AD 96. Since we can be sure that the Apostle john would never worship an idol of a Roman Caesar it is then highly probable that John was put in prison on Patmos Isle sometime during Domitian’s evil decree from September AD 95 to September AD 96. Rev 1:10,11: “On the Lord’s Day I {John} was in the spirit and I heard a loud voice {Jesus} said, ‘Write on a scroll what you see and send it to the 7 churches: to Ephusus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatria, Sardis, Philadelphis and Laodicea.” The last 6 churches are all in Western Turkey within 77 miles of Ephusus. About 50 years earlier Paul had started churches in these 7 cities. Paul always had Jewish converts in the cities where he preached since he had the habit of teaching in Jewish synagogues on the Sabbath. It was then highly probable that all 7 of these chuches had Jewish believers who were very familiar with the Hebrew language and of course knew that the 22 letters of the Jewish alphabet are also 22 numbers and also remembered the first Roman persecution by Nero about 30 years earlier when Paul & Peter and thousands of Christians were martyred because of Nero Caesar.
    Christian writings in the early 2nd century AD show that many Christians at that time believed that Nero Caesar {Who adds up to 666 in Hebrew} would return as the Anti-Christ of the End-Times. Rev 13:18: “This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight {Even in AD 96}, let him {Even in AD 96} calculate the Beast, for it is a man’s number. His {Nero Caesar’s} number is 666!” And so the above Scripture absolutely guarantees that anyone with spiritual wisdom and insight could figure out who the Anti-Christ of the End-Times would be even when Revelation was first given to the churches in AD 96, and that the number of his name adds up to 666. This would of course mean that the future Anti-Christ must have been alive before AD 96 when this Scripture was given to the churches. Nero Caesar {Whose name adds upt to 666 in Hebrew} certainly qualified since he lived from Dec 15th AD 37 to June 9th, AD 68 when he was fatally wounded by his own SWORD.
    NOTE: There are many statues of the exact likeness of Nero Caesar including a 151 foot statue in the “Golden House” in Rome. The statue of Liberty {Without pedestal} is also exactly 151 feet high… hmmm. At the beginning of Great Tribulation the False Prophet of 666, Rev 13:14: “Will order the people of the earth to set up a statue in honor of the beast who was wounded {Fatally-Rev 13:3} by the SWORD and yet lived!” {Again} This staue of the Beast will be the “exact likeness” of Nero Caesar and could possibly be seen on World Wide TV so that people of all nations will be able to worship this statue as per Rev 13:15b.
    Revelation 17:8b: “Those whose names have not been written in the Book of Life will be astonished when they see the beast {666}, because he once was {Alive–AD 37-68} now in AD 96 is not {Alive}, and yet will come.” {During the Great Tribulation} The Beast once was {Alive before AD 96} now is not {Alive in AD 96}, and will come out of the ABYSS {Or HELL} and go to his destruction.” {On the last Day-See Rev 19:20b}
    The fact that the ABYSS is HELL is confirmed by comparing 2 Peter 2:4 with Luke 8:30b,31: 2 Peter 2:4: “God did not spare the angels when they sinned but sent them into HELL, putting them in gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment.” Luke 8:30b,31: “Many demons {Or Hell’s Angels} had gone into him {A demon-possessed man}. Ant they begged Jesus repeatedly not to order them into the ABYSS! {Because they had already been in Hell or the ABYSS before!!} Now we can be absolutely certain that an evil Roman king from the city on 7 hills; who was fatally wounded by a sword *BEFORE* Revelation was written in AD 96; and whose name adds up to 666 is presently in this ABYSS or HELL!!
    All historical documents agree that Nero Caesar {The 6th Caesar who ordered the execution of Paul & Peter in AD 66 and whose name adds up to 666 in Hebrew} was fatlly wounded by his own SWORD on June 9th AD 68. In Revelation 13:14b we learn that the False Prophet of 666 will order the building of a statue of 666 “Who was {FATALLY-See Rev 13:3} wounded by the SWORD and yet lived!” {AGAIN} Nero Caesar {Whose name adds up to 666 in Hebrew} again qualifies for this inspired clue as to the identity of the Anti-Christ. Nero’s 4-year Roman persecution began when he blamed the Christians for the burning of Rome in AD 64; and ended when Nero was fatally wounded by his own SWORD on June 9th, AD 68.
    Almost all conservative Bible theologians agree that the 4th Beast of Daniel 7:7,19 is the *ROMAN* Empire. In Daniel 7:20,21 we learn that a little horn who is also called a *KING* in Daniel 7:24 will come from this *ROMAN* Empire. Daniel 7:24b,25-27: “A *KING* {From the *ROMAN* Empire–Nero Caesar??} will arise…. He will speak against the Most High and oppress his saints. The saints will be handed over to him for a Time, Times and ½ a Time.” “But the court will sit, and his {666 or the Roman King or the Beast or Nero Caesar-See Rev 19:20,21 and 2 Thess 2:8} power will be taken away and completely destroyed forever. *THEN* the sovereignty, power and greatness of the kingdoms under the whole Heaven will be handed over to the saints, the people of the Most High. His Kingdom will be an everlasting Kingdom.”
    Revelation 6:7,8: When the Lamb opened the 4th seal, I heard the voice of the 4th living creature say, “Come!” I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death {666 who will cause the death of millions} and Hades {The False Prophet who will cause millions to go to Hades by receiving the mark of 666} was following close behind him. THEY {Nero Caesar and the False Prophet} were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth. Daniel 7:24,25 says that an evil Roman King will conquer 3 of the 10 kingdoms {which will cover one fourth of the earth??}–Russia, China and India??
    The following 10 powerful nations have about 50% of the world’s population and certainly have the military, political and “religious” power to control and rule all the nations of the world: #1. United States #2. Russia #3. China {1.3 Billion} #4. Great Britain #5. France #6. India {1.1 Billion} #7. Germany #8. Japan #9. Brazil #10. Egypt. And then 666 will have “authority over every tribe, people, language and nation” as per Rev 13:7b, from his headquarters in Rome.
    Revelation 13:4: Men worshipped the dragon {Satan}, and they also worshipped the beast {666 or Nero Caesar} and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can make war against him?”
    Revelation 6:6: “A quart of wheat for a day’s wages!” This phrase can also be translated “A loaf of bread for a day’s wages.” This event woll occur at the coming of the black horse rider which will take place just before or at the beginning of the Great Tribulation. Because of the world’s present economic crises the peoples in the 10 poorest counties now have to pay a full day’s wages for a loaf of bread as per Rev 6:6. And if the world experiences a world-wide depression this event could occur in over 100 countries. And then the world will certainly be looking for an Economic Savior such as 666 and his very deceptive False Prophet. They will be looking for someone who promises CHANGE!!
    If the Great Tribulation would begin in the near future is there a well-known, powerful world leader that may qualify to be the False Prophet of 666 who will promise CHANGE you can believe in!!
    And so Nero Caesar with the help of the armies of the False Prophet {Obama??} and other nations aligned with him will conquer 1/4 of the world {See Rev 6:8; 13:4b} and then 666 will appoint 10 kings over 10 kingdoms to rule the world who have never before ruled {see Rev 17:12-14} who will then take orders from 666 and his False Prophet from their headquarters in the evil city on 7 hills or Rome.{See Rev 17:9} “Babylon is called a CITY 7 times in Revelation, chapter 18 and a seaport in Rev 18:17-19. Peter was inspired to call Rome “Babylon” in I Peter 5:13.
    Rev 13:14-17: The False Prophet deceived the inhabitants of the earth. He ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was {FATALLY-Rev 13:3} wounded by the sword and yet lived. He was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast {666}, so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. He also forced everyone to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast {NERO CAESAR} or the number of his name {666}. And God will supply all the needs of His faithful and corageous Tribulation saints just as He miraculously supplied all the needs of the Israelites for 40 years in the wilderness. {See Matt 6:31-34}
    Rev 13:5-10: The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise his authority for 42 {30-day} months {Or 1260 days or time, times and 1/2 a time-See Dan 7:25 & Dan 12:1,2,6b,7b}….. He was given power to make war against the saints and to conquer them. And he was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast–all whose names have not been written in the book of life belonging to the Lamb…. This call for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of the saints.
    Matt 24:9-12…Matt 24:29-31: Jesus says, “Then {During the 42-month Great Trinulation} you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by ALL nations because of Me. At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of tthe increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved… Immediately after the distress of those {1260} days’the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light and the stars will fall from the sky.’ At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect from the 4 winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.” {Mark 13:27 adds, “From the ends of the earth to the ends of the heavens.”

  8. pouletnoir Says:

    I’m afraid I drifted off when you declared something to be a coincidence when it was clearly a numerological contrivance. I’m not saying that 666 was not meant to mean Nero. I do, however, think that any attempt to prove it with numerology is flawed. Your interpretation involved working backwards from 666 to get a proposition that fits. This does not constitute a proof. I’m not well-versed enough in Hebrew to bother trying, but it would be possible to take a variety of combinations of those ancient Hebrew letters and get them to add up to 666. All you have to do is get a set of letters that work, arrange them into a convenient order and add some vowels with no numerical value.
    Actually, I don’t have to bother doing such a thing, because the people who found a way to get Domitian and Caligula’s names to fit have already done it.
    Even with the letter combination that you chose, there are hundreds of possibilities. “Sonar rank”, for example, adds up to 666. Could it be that the Beast is the ranking officer on a submarine?
    It may sound absurd, but it is no more weird than your suggestion that Barack Obama is the anti-Christ on the basis that he is a world leader who promises change (as if he were unique in that sense).

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